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likesmatureones 55M
0 posts
8/16/2017 5:12 pm
taking down a statue


just curious if you thought certain statues should be removed.

I think it is easy for someone to say fuck yeah..take the general lee statue down..

But should general/ president grant be removed from the 50 dollar bill then....general grant committed atrocities against various indian tribes out west/ general grant actually owned slaves/grant was an alcoholic..plus he was an incompetent president

General Lee? nope not a slave owner/graduate of west point /.

How about removing abe lincoln from the 5 dollar bill/removing his monument.. lincoln actually didn't have a problem with slavery and would have kept it as an institution if it meant restoring the union. Plus his emancipation proclamation only applied to the slaves in the south. He didn't end slavery over night and allowed it to continue after the war

How about washington or thomas jefferson? both slave owners.. both presidents that could have stopped the practice of slavery in america..but did nothing and got rich off their slave run farms.

So why are we so fast to remove a statue of general lee but flock to wash dc to see the lincoln/washington and jefferson monuments...

How is one a racist and the others..well founding fathers..

likesmatureones 55M

8/16/2017 5:26 pm

so general lee is racist because he fought against the north??? huh

So a man is racist because he chooses to side with his kin/friends/state over the US government...

People have to know that 99 percent of those in the southern army didn't own slaves.

And 99 percent of the northern army weren't abolitionist..they weren't fighting to end slavery.

So should we just do away with all civil war bullshit?


drmgirl622 68F  
25884 posts
8/16/2017 5:34 pm

I believe the statues should stay where there are.... are we to reduce Gettysburg to a flower garden....I think not !


likesmatureones 55M

8/16/2017 5:44 pm

And to be honest my kin folk didn't fight to end anything... they fought for $$$...poor people could literally buy up conscription...they would fight in place or rich people for a sum of money.

My people were the marksmen because omg they were actually hunters and knew to to actually shoot a rifle.
My cousins did three tours of duty..

The civil war wasn't about slavery folks..99 percent of the people involved didn't have a dog in that fight..most were poor fucks..


likesmatureones 55M

8/16/2017 6:08 pm

it is just common knowledge..most practices of our fore father could be considered racist in today's light...

So why remove one set of statues and not the other. Why keep the name of slave owners on our schools/towns/streets..
why do we still honor these men?
why replace the name of robert e lee and not thomas jefferson? wasn't jefferson more of a racist than general lee? ( and honestly was his taking of his slave sexually even consensual ?..history keeps on calling her his "mistress". But in reality she was his property and he most likely _aped her.
So owning a woman is "okay"...so let honor jefferson... but some guy that lead a rebel army needs his statue removed TODAY!!!! ( that racist motherfucker!!!!!)

and if general lee is a traitor then what does it make george washington... His various acts made him a traitor to the crown....yet fuck we were ready to make him king. And yes he still might have been a member of the british military when he literally turned "coat".

So why is general lee such a lightening rod? did he give speeches denouncing the black race? hell all I know is after the war he went on to a peaceful life and never bothered anyone


likesmatureones 55M

8/16/2017 6:42 pm

why would i need to improve my understanding of the civil war? and could one really trust the parks and rec dept when it comes to statues in this politically charged climate? Do you know they want to remove a statue dedicated to the daughters of the south here in kc.. a statue dedicated to the women in the civil war....this has just become retarded!

And honestly harrisburgh PA is no learning mecca..I've been there numerous times ( pretty much a dump..well better than allentown or philly)..
it pales to the likes of Pittsburgh.. yep shadyside in the house/5th and fucking forbes baby

I'm pennsylvania born and raised..steeler strong and home of the NHL champion quins...


likesmatureones 55M

8/16/2017 6:49 pm

and who in their right mind would take night classes at umkc bro.. your gonna have to do better than that...

if your just gonna look up a local university on google, you could have said KU at least. Show some class...


likesmatureones 55M

8/16/2017 7:03 pm

my point to all of this is general robert e lee did NOTHING to warrant his removal from a public forum. if anything you should admire the man for making due with what he had and overcoming superior forces...yep i'm a student of history

The irony here is he would have been honored if he chose the blue over the grey...yet we honor slave owners in our capitol/on our money /on the names of our schools.... kinda ironic don't ya think..

quit being hypercrits.. if you want to remove the "old south" references then you need to remove those of the founding fathers.

Honestly i'd be fine with removing references to washington and put dr mlk jr on the dollar bill...
I honestly couldn't think of a more worthy american. just tear all that shit down


brandygirasol 54T
9365 posts
8/16/2017 8:19 pm

Democrat President FDR Sent Japanese Americans To Prison Camps .... FDR Turned Away A Shipload Of 900 Jews Fleeing Nazi Germany Knowing They Would End Up In Nazi Concentration Camps Destined To Die ... So Lets Take His Statue Down Along With Lincoln And Then The Washington Monument. Then Lets Start Burning Books That LEFTYS Don't Like- The Kind That Celebrate Liberty And Freedom. Next Lets Get Rid Of The U S Constitution Because After All It Was Written By A Bunch Of White Guys And Some Of Them Owned Slaves. Then Lets Get Rid Of All The Whites That Are Living NOW Because Everybody Knows They Are All Automatically Bigots Due To Skin Color.....


VovimBaghie2030 55M  
261 posts
8/16/2017 8:47 pm

Now I see some whiny, parasitic, low iq pieces of shit are demanding that the Alamo be torn down because it offends them. This isn't going to end well, for them!


brandygirasol 54T
9365 posts
8/16/2017 9:06 pm

DR KING Said Judge Men By The Content Of Their Character Rather Than Skin Color... People Like Myself Believe That But Unfortunately The LEFTYS Do Not...


likesmatureones 55M

8/17/2017 4:06 am

Happy: first off washington was a british citizen and I'm gonna assume still officially a part of the British military at this time...so what he did was an act of treason.. the same crime we tend to blame lee with.

Second if you look at the biography of lee you'll see his family owned slaves...which doesn't mean he personally did.. he was a fucking military man most of his life and certainly wouldn't have had a slave at the end of the war...so yeah...not sure where your getting your info from.

But your getting off track here and attacking me instead.. no matter what your personal feelings for lee are, aren't our founding fathers equally guilty?

Shouldn't they be removed from our public parks


likesmatureones 55M

8/17/2017 4:10 am

Happy: I never said I hate america and no washington wasn't a capable leader of anyone..he basically was a cluster fuck of a general ( you might want to open up a history book sometime). Washington made his money via marriage( and you thought trump was bad for borrowing from his dad)/washington bought his military commission and was a terrible leader on the battle field.

The english lost the revolutionary war because they just didn't care.


prpackaged 80M  
740 posts
8/17/2017 11:40 am

Thank you for this fascinating topic. There is so much of our history to goes ignored or used in the wrong context. Robert E Lee needs to be remembered for what he contributed to our history. He stood for States Rights at a time when the issue of our country being a single country rather than a conglomeration of individual sub countries. The confederacy loss finalized that issue by making the United States a single country. Lee's family, like many families in the War Between the States was torn by support for both sides. Lee;s brother owned a plantation in Mississippi where the slaves acted as owners and ran the plantation independent of his brother. Interesting that the family believed that non whites were as capable as whites. Context is what is missing. Washington and Jefferson both owned slaves. That was the way their country was structured. What they contributed made this country what it is today. When people can accept all of our history, then we can legitimately talk about what statues should stay and what should be removed. If the statue was placed to honor someone's actions then let it stay. If it was placed to create a stye in the eye of the community then place it on private land. And please, honor the ten commandments. Religious though it may be it is still the founding belief system for this and many countries.

The blackest lie is a partial truth that leads you to the wrong conclusion.


brandygirasol 54T
9365 posts
8/17/2017 2:41 pm

So Please Explain To Me WHO ARE THE GOOD GUYS???


marshamay 35F
5934 posts
8/17/2017 5:44 pm

Did all those statues just appear after Trump was elected ? This sudden outrage all seems to be a bit staged and phony , maybe it's just me .


brandygirasol 54T
9365 posts
8/17/2017 8:16 pm

    Quoting marshamay:
    Did all those statues just appear after Trump was elected ? This sudden outrage all seems to be a bit staged and phony , maybe it's just me .
Marsha- You Are Correct Its Big Time Phoney BS Outrage From The MSM Propaganda Branch Of The Democrat Party. Its Not Just You- Anybody Else Who Is Being Honest Sees Through It!!!


VovimBaghie2030 55M  
261 posts
8/18/2017 2:28 pm

And now you have scum like Al Sharpton and that moronic, evil cunt Angela Rye demanding that monuments to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson be removed. These leftist scum are insane and evil and they need to be removed by any means necessary!



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