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CawintShard 68M

2/21/2019 12:02 pm

Is this a throat-fucking device?


Daddyslilpunkin 47F
3470 posts
2/21/2019 1:24 pm

I'm not sure why I am having such a visceral response to "It's a hold the bitches mouth open device. What you do then is up to you and not up to the bitch, which is the whole point" but I am.

As a sub there are very few, if any, things I would not do that my Sir commands. Inherently I am a good girl and sub and I respond to pleasing my sir. As a listener of /hip hop/urban "bitch" is a term used frequently, and one I employ quite a bit, much to my Master's dismay. This response seems to be affecting me. I admit I am relatively new to the D/s dynamic and I attempt to always have an open mind to those whose desires and fetishes are not something I would enjoy...to each their own. (Unless of course animals and children are being hurt.)

Yet, this comment..this comment is just not sitting right. What I have personally observed in being on Alt, my own relationship, and in engaging with other subs, is that Doms overall respect their subs. Although we may submit some rights, we may become chattel or their property, we too have some control, and much respect. This comment seems to be contrary to this respect.

In a sex or play scene yes I can see the use of humiliation, or name calling...hell it can be a serious turn on, but I think in a forum such as this, it is demeaning, and appears to reduce a human, a sub, to a mere object. Perhaps this is something that some desire, and is acceptable, and how some doms envision their sub.

I get the use of tech, toys, and tools in D/s play and even in vanilla play, but wouldn't a command suffice? Would not referring to your sub in public as something you cherish and respect for giving of themselves something rather than a "bitch" be something more appropriate?

You found parts of me I didn’t know existed and in you I found a love I no longer believed was real.


CawintShard 68M

2/21/2019 3:41 pm

    Quoting  :

I understand "Open for me baby," but if you want to add an element of humiliation this might satisfy that. The submissive might enjoy that sensation once it is introduced.


CawintShard 68M

2/21/2019 3:48 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    I'm not sure why I am having such a visceral response to "It's a hold the bitches mouth open device. What you do then is up to you and not up to the bitch, which is the whole point" but I am.

    As a sub there are very few, if any, things I would not do that my Sir commands. Inherently I am a good girl and sub and I respond to pleasing my sir. As a listener of /hip hop/urban "bitch" is a term used frequently, and one I employ quite a bit, much to my Master's dismay. This response seems to be affecting me. I admit I am relatively new to the D/s dynamic and I attempt to always have an open mind to those whose desires and fetishes are not something I would enjoy...to each their own. (Unless of course animals and children are being hurt.)

    Yet, this comment..this comment is just not sitting right. What I have personally observed in being on Alt, my own relationship, and in engaging with other subs, is that Doms overall respect their subs. Although we may submit some rights, we may become chattel or their property, we too have some control, and much respect. This comment seems to be contrary to this respect.

    In a sex or play scene yes I can see the use of humiliation, or name calling...hell it can be a serious turn on, but I think in a forum such as this, it is demeaning, and appears to reduce a human, a sub, to a mere object. Perhaps this is something that some desire, and is acceptable, and how some doms envision their sub.

    I get the use of tech, toys, and tools in D/s play and even in vanilla play, but wouldn't a command suffice? Would not referring to your sub in public as something you cherish and respect for giving of themselves something rather than a "bitch" be something more appropriate?
I asked, "Is this a throat-fucking device?" The response that I did not write was "It's a hold the bitches mouth open device. What you do then is up to you and not up to the bitch, which is the whole point." I never call or refer to a submissive as "the bitch" because it is demeaning and dehumanizing.


Daddyslilpunkin 47F
3470 posts
2/21/2019 6:01 pm

    Quoting CawintShard:
    I asked, "Is this a throat-fucking device?" The response that I did not write was "It's a hold the bitches mouth open device. What you do then is up to you and not up to the bitch, which is the whole point." I never call or refer to a submissive as "the bitch" because it is demeaning and dehumanizing.
I wasn't saying you said it when I hit quote to respond, only your question came up...that is why I included the "quote" from arero. He responded and we are all good. Sorry if I caused any concern

You found parts of me I didn’t know existed and in you I found a love I no longer believed was real.


CawintShard 68M

2/22/2019 9:15 am

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    I wasn't saying you said it when I hit quote to respond, only your question came up...that is why I included the "quote" from arero. He responded and we are all good. Sorry if I caused any concern
No problem. I get it!


CawintShard 68M

2/22/2019 11:37 am

I did?



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